– “Shortly before his death, Karl Rahner reflected on Christianity’s four basic changes. When is the first Eucharistic prayer used? I realize that “heavenward” might strike some as archaic, but to me it sounds better thatn”to heaven to you.”. I tried to self-teach myself German in high school, and then took a year of Latin in college; while I can transliterate Greek reasonably, due to all the ancient and church history sidebars I encountered, I never took Greek. Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord. Lift up your hearts. Jordan, is your heart never moved to greater devotion by hearing some phrase in the eucharistic prayer (even if you’ve heard it a thousand times before)? ± We lift them up to the Lord. Accuracy has no particular theological significance, and remains a dangerous lean toward Gnosticism. Lift up your hearts. Therefore we proclaim the mystery of faith: Christ has died. Todd – this was just posted and supports your comment: http://ncronline.org/blogs/spiritual-reflections/everything-sacred, Highlights: This blog is not associated with Pray Tell: An open forum on faith in South Texas. We offer them to you first for your holy Catholic Church.” Also, I like keeping the “therefore” in the “te igitur,” which I read as linking back to what we have thanked God for in the preface. I’ll also quickly add that, compared to 2011, your substitutions tend to add syllables and verbal complexity: e.g. Since ‘bread’ and ‘cup’ are inanimate, I would suggest ‘a pure sacrifice, a holy sacrifice, a perfect sacrifice’. The English Version is just as tough as the Latin! One of liturgical postmodernism’s fears is the possibility that laypersons and especially the clergy will achieve and foster a deeper knowledge of Latin. These we offer to you first for your holy Catholic Church. Yet, the Spirit works hard and the content remains, but rendered in such away as it flowed from the tongue and touched the listener. We lift them to the Lord. The first Eucharistic Prayer –also known as the Roman Canon — is the prayer that your parents, grandparents, and great great great grandparents all the way back to 1570, would have followed in Latin at Mass. I am sure that to some it will sound ‘clunky.’ Hey ho, as they say. It seems the theology of it, especially what it celebrates and how it forms believers in Christ, can be said in clear and artistic ways today in many vernacular languages. the Roman Canon, may always be used; its use is particularly suited to days assigned a proper Communicantes or a proper Hanc igitur; to feasts of the apostles and saints mentioned in this Prayer; also to Sundays, unless pastoral reasons call for a different eucharistic prayer. For “thinks” READ “things”.). (Through Christ our Lord, Amen.). Sanctus("Holy, Holy"; based on the praise of the Seraphim in Isa 6:3 and Rev 4:8): All: Holy, Holy, Holy Lord God of hosts. g Lord, by your cross and re sur rec tion you have set us free. The prayer is also called The Great Thanksgiving, the anaphora, the prayer of consecration, and the canon of the Mass. Then on May 1, 2013, … Each eucharistic prayer has its own internal logic, its own way of unfolding the sacrifice and paschal mystery. 1973 had ‘May their merits and prayers gain us’. Your email address will not be published. EUCHARISTIC PRAYER FOR CHILDREN 1. Jump to: navigation, search "Who are Certain Saints Mentioned in the Holy Mass?" Our sacred authors constantly led their communities into areas few had entered before. Let us give thanks to the Lord our God. Jordan Zarembo : What benefit is there is hearing the discrete words of the eucharistic prayer? And also with you. Admire your effort, though, to consider an improved text. I just want to be sure we keep worshiping God, we respect people, and we use human-made tools, including the language of a pagan empire, in their right place: in serving God and others. Through the song of the Canon the Roman Church has heard the rise and fall of empires, the revolution of cultures and the reform of ecclesiastical spheres, the most heinous of human inhumanity towards fellow human beings, and the most profound examples of selflessness. During the Eucharistic Prayer I, before the consecration, the priest calls to mind all members of the Church, including the Saints in heaven, acknowledging we are all united in praise and worship of God. It … The Celebrant, whether bishop or priest, faces them and sings or says The Lord be with you. I’m going to sit back now and see who comes up with a more credible one. Latin, then, is not an obscurant’s hobby but rather one of the greatest liberators of minds. Through their merits and prayers grant us always the defense of your protecting help. Re “the pure victim, the holy victim, the perfect victim”, Latin ‘hostia’ can be used for animates (humans and animals) and for inanimates. With hands extended he sings (or says): The Lord be with you. … Whatever its lacks as an exacting translation of the Latin, I think it is hard to beat the sure rhythms of 1967. Having heard from colleagues that for reasons such as this they no longer speak this prayer at Mass, I thought it might be an interesting exercise to attempt a version that would both be close to the Latin and allow a less demanding articulation. How much bother could have been avoided if accurate translations into English had, ad interim, been allowed at Mass for everything. For me and for so much in the Church it really isn’t either/or but both/and. Order our days in your peace, bid us be freed from eternal condemnation and counted among the flock of those you have chosen. Eucharistic Prayer C is the “Star Wars” prayer and is decidedly creation-focused (and, everyone should note, is far and away the most penitential of the four), and Eucharistic Prayer D is the lengthiest and is generally associated with the holiest of our holidays or with occasions of Christian unity. for the Usus antiquior, the EF. I really miss the old ICEL EP I. In your goodness, look upon these things with a peaceful and kindly regard. 137:4-7 NRSV). Whenever you drink it, do this for the remembrance of me.”. I do experience heartfelt moments, especially when reflecting on scripture and the propers of the Mass both during and after the liturgy. The Celebrant, whether bishop or priest, faces them and sings or says : The Lord be with you. So I had 9 years of Spanish by the time I graduated high school. It is part of the heritage of all Roman Catholics, which is why Vatican II mandated that the faithful know at least part of the Mass in Latin. Let us give thanks to the Lord our God. Christ will come again. I wish we had a style-o-meter or pray-o-meter to assess the total impact of the current trans as opposed to the first one — the fact that priests are shunning the Roman Canon altogether now speaks volumes. Blessed is the one who comes in the name of the Lord. Eucharistic Prayer IV, however, should always be used with the preface printed above.) “How could we sing the Lord’s song in a foreign land? “reverence” for “humble”, “condemnation” for “damnation”, “forgiveness” for “pardon”. God speed. 2.1 The text; In the Communicantes The text. A point sometimes made is that it is not easy to hear and understand them. Both contain wording that might be more appropriate for children or the topic addressed at the Mass. Bless this offering, we pray, O God. EUCHARISTIC PRAYER FOR CHILDREN 1. Eucharistic Prayer IV’s eastern tilt is obvious: the Roman Rite, historically, is succinct, while the Eastern half of the Church is known for its verbosity. Indeed one of the finest in his considerable experience. Florida123 February 9, 2011, 4:55pm #1. Eucharistic Celebration Jesus, Eucharistic Lord, I praise you and adore you, with all my brothers and sisters throughout the world, here in the sacrament of your Most Holy Body and Blood that we are celebrating, united with You to offer it to the Father as a sacrifice of praise and thanksgiving. Oh well, we had enough of that, it seems. It is truly right, and good and joyful, to give you thanks, … 333-343), four for Rite 2 (pp. For me, the ritual text is one which is spoken, or rather performed by a bodied speaker. This webpage is not intended for presiders to use while celebrating the Liturgy, but is designed for comparative study of the Eucharistic Prayers. The time now may be for the composition of new texts in various vernacular languages, for the sharing and exchange of them among churches. @Jordan Zarembo – comment #21: Let us give thanks to the Lord our God. Liturgical Press | School of Theology • Seminary | Saint John's Abbey | Comments Policy | Contact Us Jordan Zarembo is right about Latin. I love and relate deeply to English with Latin syntax. No wonder we need to told by the rubric not to impose hands at this point: it feels the natural thing to do! All: And with your spirit Priest: Lift up your hearts. And unless the discussion is widened, people in Rome will have no idea they represent only a sliver of genuine orthodoxy. This is not easy to do, but when it is done well, it adds immeasurably to the weight and depth of what is actually being said. http://www.icelweb.org/musicfolder/openmusic.phphttp://www.musicasacra.com/ The first three had taken place in the church’s initial 150 years; the fourth was the Second Vatican Council’s presupposition that there’s no longer a “sacred language” or a “sacred culture.” Swahili is just as sacred as Latin; Chinese culture as sacred as European. The problem is that the authors of the new translation were not masters, but obvious amatuers of liturgical English. This translation is not in the vernacular of Americans. @Jack Feehily – comment #33: in response to) their merits and prayers’. It is right to give our thanks and praise. People: And with thy spirit. Priest: Let us give thanks to the Lord, our God. 1) Eucharistic Prayer I, i.e. The new translation treats Lit Auth in so cavalier a fashion that there can be few who support both. However, the Sacramentary EP I in many places scarcely resembles the canon missae. I think both aims can be realised, but would not presume to pretend that mine is anything more than a starter, and there are many other people with greater gifts than I have in this field. I had to go back and read it myself to understand it. Select charters schools, yes, but even then on an elective rather than compulsory basis. The Priest, with hands extended, says: To you, therefore, most merciful Father, we make humble prayer and petition. On the night before he died for us, Our Savior Jesus Christ took bread, and when he had given thanks to you, he broke it, and gave it to his friends, and said: “Take, eat: This is my Body which is given for you. It is right to give him thanks and praise. There are few elements of the Holy Mass more venerable than the Roman Canon, also known as Eucharistic Prayer I in the Ordinary Form.Writing a few years back about this very topic, Fr. to present for comment. @Jack Feehily – comment #20: Our souls magnify you, O Lord, and our spirits rejoice in you, for you are our Saviour. And also with you . This ancient text is especially appropriate for Sundays, unless for pastoral considerations Eucharistic Prayer III … Hosanna in the highest. Eucharistic Prayer for Masses with Children I Using the New Translation of the Roman Missal _____ The priest begins the Eucharistic Prayer. Remember, O Lord, against the Edomites the day of Jerusalem’s fall, how they said, ‘Tear it down! Each Eucharistic Prayer consists of three sections: (1) a petition for the working of the Holy Spirit, (2) a description of the effects of the Holy Spirit’s action of transforming the Eucharistic elements, and (3) the “fruits” of the Holy Spirit, which are the res tantum or ultimate reality of the sacrament for the community: (There is a small typo in the text above. (The very opposite of ‘Twitterese’). We lift them to the Lord. This clashes somewhat with your attempt to shorten the sentences à la 1973. We beg you, admit us into their company, not considering what we deserve but granting us your forgiveness. An expert in English literature (as well as a gifted Latinist) once said to me that he thought the 1967 text a superb example of 20th century paratactic English. It’s tough to translate a dead language into a living one. The Spirit can inspire new eucharistic compositions. 1.1 The text; 1.2 Sorted list; 2 In the Nobis quoque. I agree with Joe O’Leary with what he says about the “spirit and movement” of prayer. It was the absolute work of the Spirit. I noticed that the WELS churches that I go to consecrate the bread and wine with the Words of Institution. The people remain standing. You gave the world into our care that we might be your faithful stewards and show forth your bountiful grace. … We venerate the memory of those whose fellowship we share: especially the glorious ever-Virgin Mary, Mother of Jesus Christ our God and Lord, blessed Joseph her husband, the blessed apostles and martyrs Peter and Paul, Andrew, James and John, Thomas, James, Philip, Bartholomew, Matthew, Simon and Jude: Linus, Cletus, Clement, Sixtus, Cornelius, Cyprian, Lawrence, Chrysogonus, John and Paul, Cosmas and Damian and all your saints. I think the Church would be enriched if a wider swath of folks contributed to conversations that are now only happening behind closed doors in Rome. In 2 Kings 22:14, she is identified as a prophetess and … The reforms of Vatican II are doomed if they are not grafted into the unbroken tradition of worship. To use Mgr Harbert’s analogy of vestments, the priest saying Mass in the new translation may be wearing a chasuble. And also with you. Fr. Priest: The Lord be with you. Those two lines have now been restored. Hear, Hear! In fact, it translated the Latin so exactly that you could see the scars left by the mutilations the Latin underwent in the change from Roman Canon to First EP in the new rite. Eucharistic Prayer 1. Absurd given the botched version foisted on the Church. EUCHARISTIC PRAYER FOR USE IN. The translation is a stumbling block. Perhaps the Latin version of the pre-V2 liturgy’s Canon had seen empires rise and fall and whatnot. I cringe each week when I hear and pray the clunky translation. M. To you, therefore, most merciful Father, we make humble prayer and petition through Jesus Christ, your Son, our Lord: that you accept. I incline to interpret the triple use of ‘hostia’ in this section of EP1 as being in apposition to ‘panem sanctum vitae aeternae et calicem salutis perpetuae’, which follows immediately. In the Eucharist, the part of the prayer that bears the term has historically been viewed both as a blessing and consecration of the elements of bread and wine. I respect your view. EUCHARISTIC PRAYER 1. Approve it and in every way confirm it. An example of the latter is ‘hostia laudis’, correctly translated ‘sacrifice of praise’ in the 1973 and 2011 versions and by Canon Griffiths. I find it quite interesting that some liturgically progressive Catholics and some liturgically traditionalist Catholics can both be pietists, but in starkly different ways. His Spirit is with us. Yes, I see your point, and it is well taken. Should this happen, the faithful will be empowered to drink deeply of our liturgical and theological heritage. To you, most merciful Father, with reverence we pray through Jesus Christ, your Son our Lord. I would be interested to get reactions to this, and I have my hard hat handy. I have no problem with people promoting Latin. Entries (RSS) and Comments (RSS) TOP Let my tongue cling to the roof of my mouth, if I do not remember you, if I do not set Jerusalem above my highest joy. This, then, Lord, is the offering of our service and that of your whole household. Let us give thanks to the Lord our God. Have we reached the limits of the possibility of translation of liturgical texts? 402-404). Order our days in your peace, bid us be freed from eternal condemnation and counted among the flock of those you have chosen. And also with you. It is right to give him thanks and praise . ((John McKenna, The Eucharistic Epiclesis (Second Edition. There are few elements of the Holy Mass more venerable than the Roman Canon, also known as Eucharistic Prayer I in the Ordinary Form.Writing a few years back about this very topic, Fr. A depiction of our sacral language as beyond comprehension (and therefore not to be shared with any of the faithful) only dissuades Catholics from the intellectual liberation found in a knowledge of Latin. . Neither way of life is without fault. In this prayer, we hear the name of John the Baptist, the cousin of Our Lord , who called people to faith and repentance and was eventually beheaded by Herod (Matthew 14:1-12). Prayers that were once alive are twisted and complex. As for us, your ministers, sinners who hope in your abundant mercy, grant us of your goodness a share in the fellowship of your holy apostles and martyrs: with John the Baptist, Stephen, Matthias, Barnabas, Ignatius, Alexander, Marcellinus, Peter, Felicity, Perpetua, Agatha, Lucy, Agnes, Cecilia, Anastasia and all your saints. R. It is right and just. — Amen. Tear it down! Therefore, joining with Angels and Archangels and with the faithful of every generation, we lift our voices with all creation as we sing: Holy, holy, holy Lord, Holy, Holy (the "Sanctus"; based on the praise of the Seraphim in Isa 6:3 and Rev 4:8): Born into the human family, and dwelling among us, he revealed your glory. The Sacramentary EP I was pure poetry. Liturgy and Sacraments. That said, worshiping in a non-primary language most definitely has the whiff of specialized experience, and an indirect worship of aristocracy. After the long (it should not really be shortened!) Saints in the First Eucharistic Prayer. Thanks, Bill. Lift up your hearts. The Eucharistic Prayer is the heart of the Liturgy of the Eucharist. EUCHARISTIC PRAYER C ASB 1980 Rite A Prayer 4 revised. Scopri Eucharistic Prayer II, Pt. That’s the only remark I’ll make on capitalization, preferring to ponder over the Canon’s text and translations. All: And with your spirit Priest: Lift up your hearts. I may not benefit as much as others by hearing the words of the eucharistic prayer, but that does not mean that no one ever benefits. I appreciate Fr Griffith’s effort to seek some middle ground between 2011 and 1973. MASSES FOR VARIOUS NEEDS I . Priests need to surrender to the text offered for prayer, not seek to improve it. But I do not see anywhere in Scripture directly saying it should be done that way, and the Early Church Fathers seem to say that it must be done by a Eucharistic Prayer instead (for example, Saint Ambrose; De fide ad Gratianum 4.10.125). We do not presume to come to this thy Table, O merciful Lord, trusting in our own righteousness, but in thy manifold and great mercies. Two points, if I may : Introduction from Common Worship: Additional Eucharistic Prayers - with Guidance on Celebrating the Eucharist with Children by The Church of England. The BCP includes eight eucharistic prayers: two for Rite 1 (pp. However, I would prefer that more effort were put into maintaining as much Latin as possible [as Vatican II decreed!] unconditional election and perseverance). Eucharistic Prayer 1 from Celebrating Eucharist Chapter 21. Blog Staff and Editorial Advisory Committee, Liborius Lumma Appointed to Catholic-Protestant Dialogue, Sr. Jeana Visel, OSB receives Teacher-Scholar Grant from the Calvin Institute of Worship, 59th Annual Southwest Liturgy Conference Study Week – Online Feb. 2-4. ± it is right and just. reflection on the sacred mysteries is exalted and emotion (or as I would put it, “pathos”) is deprecated. Grant that we who share these gifts may be filled with the Holy Spirit and live as Christ’s Body in the world. In your goodness grant her peace; guard, unite and govern her throughout the whole world. ), Remember also, Lord, your servants (NN) who have gone before us marked with the sign of faith and rest in the sleep of peace. We then recall Saint Stephen, the deacon and first martyr of the Church . I have read the text aloud only once. Lift up your hearts. On the day before he was to suffer, he took bread in his holy and honorable hands, and raising his eyes to heaven to you, O God, his almighty Father, he blessed it with a prayer of thanksgiving, broke the bread and gave it to his disciples, saying, ‘Take this, all of you and eat of it, for this is my body which will be given up for you.’, Likewise when supper was ended he took this glorious chalice in his holy and honorable hands; again he blessed it with a prayer of thanksgiving and gave the chalice to his disciples, saying, ‘Take this, all of you and drink from it, for this is the chalice of my blood, the blood of the new and eternal covenant which will be poured out for you and for many for the forgiveness of sins. I just don’t think it works well to speak English with Latin syntax. 402-404). Through Abraham and Sarah you called us into covenant with you. 1 The reference to Huldah in Supplementary Eucharistic Prayer 1 (S1) is an example. Posts about Eucharistic Prayer 1 written by stjosephstmary. Eucharistic Prayer n. 1: it is the ancient Roman Canon with minimal variations. list of saints whose names are prayed as it were in passing, we come to a sort of climax at the Hanc igitur. We lift them to the Lord. Thank you for that.I think on the whole I’d be easier with ‘sacrifice’ than’victim’ which has a certain ‘weighting’ in modern English. The Roman Canon prayed in Latin with all its rubrical gestures and in a low voice is striking in the sense that those present, priest and laity realize this is prayer to God in the “holy of holies.” The gestures speak volumes and quite loudly although the prayer is hushed and in the elegance of the Latin vernacular. This ideological dogma is merely a subterfuge to enforce a wholesale dismissal of our Catholic liturgical heritage and our sacral language. Personally, I now believe that the mistake made in the ’60s was to adapt and translate at the same time. Yesterday. Through Christ and with Christ and in Christ, in the unity of the Holy Spirit, to you be honor, glory, and praise, for ever and ever. In your kindness accept it, we pray. I was, though, thinking that ‘victim’ offers a stronger apposition to ‘bread’ and ‘cup’ (I note your use of ‘cup’ as opposed to ‘chalice’) as it is ‘animate’ app. It didn’t make any difference to them that vocalizing capitalized words is not comprehensible. It comes six lines from the end [Per quem haec omnia, Domine, ….”]. It is right to give him thanks and praise. All: It is right and just Eucharistic Prayer IV: We give you praise, Father most holy, for you are great and you have fashioned all your works in wisdom and in love… In addition, there are two Eucharistic Prayers for Reconciliation and four Eucharistic Prayers for Various Needs. Blessed are you strong and … As for Fr Griffiths offering: while commendable, I think that it fails really to come alive in reading or speaking. It is right to give our thanks and praise. Let us give thanks to the Lord our God. The Lord be with you. You formed us in your own image and called us to dwell in your infinite love. Your considerable gifts as a Latinist and as an English stylist are certainly equal to those of the priest I referred to. Contents. My parishioners nearly all have English as first or subsidiary language, but all have some exposure to Latin, which remains “neutral” in the sense of highest common factor. One could see capitalization as a continuation of that ancient practice. 361-375), and two shortened forms in An Order for Celebrating the Holy Eucharist (pp. It is not, however, anything more than paraphrased presentation of the theological themes of the Canon. And also with you. Answer: At Mass, we are usually used to the four main Eucharistic Prayers. It would be good if John Robert Francis (#1) could post the 1967 text so that all might see and compare. 333-343), four for Rite 2 (pp. In this prayer, the lines in italics are spoken by the People. It is right and just. Though that is absurd, these folks think of themselves as kind of sacred cows and their view prevailed. It is truly right, and good and joyful, to give you thanks, all-holy God, source of life and fountain of mercy. Eucharistic Prayer n. 1: it is the ancient Roman Canon with minimal variations. heaven and earth are full of your glory. But the Eucharistic Prayer spoken or chanted audibly and in the vernacular has its own beauty as long as the priest doesn’t do it in a proclamation tone as though to the assembly before him or preferably behind him. But they also had the common sense translation rules of the Consilium. Underlying this regular pattern is the conviction that ‘there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus’ (1 Tim 2:5). Yet, the Spirit works hard and the content remains, but rendered in such away as it flowed from the tongue and touched the listener. We lift them to the Lord. Ascolta senza pubblicità oppure acquista CD e MP3 adesso su Amazon.it. We offer them in union with your servant N. our pope and N. our bishop, with all who worship you in truth and serve the Catholic and apostolic faith. Celebrant Lift up your hearts. Remember, Lord, your servants (especially NN. We lift them up to the Lord. Those ICEL bods in the 1960s knew a thing or two. Preface (may be substituted with another) The Lord be with you. We offer it to you also for those to whom you have graciously given the new birth of water and the Holy Spirit, granting them forgiveness of all their sins. The Lord be with you and also with you. Actually, I appreciate the impersonality angle. Christ is risen. Celebrant: Let us give thanks unto our Lord God. ∕. I certainly didn’t learn that in my catechism classes.”. Lift up your hearts. ; Chicago: Hillenbrand Books, 2009), 47-51. The Preface printed at the beginning of EP II is the same as the Preface for Weekdays VI, number P42 in the Sacramentary.) I find it difficult to isolate a word or phrase in a particular eucharistic prayer. Per omnia saecula saculorum. It is right to give thanks and praise. Lift up your hearts: We lift them to the Lord. What’s wrong with semi-colons? Florida123 February 9, 2011, 4:55pm #1. In both cases (capitalization, abbreviation) one could see it as giving the words a sacramental significance, a sign of mystery beyond mere words. – “Though it provided great security for its proponents, this narrow-minded, non-change reasoning isn’t biblical. 4 above. Lift up your hearts We lift them up to the Lord. Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord. It was the absolute work of the Spirit. – “Followers of a biblical God are constantly expected to overcome the narrow-mindedness that distinguishes many “religious” folk.” Remembering his death and resurrection, we now present to you from your creation this bread and this wine. Lift up your hearts. But thou art the same Lord whose property is always to have mercy. Lift up your hearts We lift them up to the Lord. @Jordan Zarembo – comment #21: Those responsible for the official translation were clearly not entirely comfortable with it, since they failed to capitalise ‘victim’, despite their love of capitalisation in general and their capitalisation of ‘Victim’ elsewhere. EUCHARISTIC PRAYER 1 (ROMAN CANON) WITH PROPER FORM OF COMMUNICANTES ON THE EPIPHANY OF THE LORD. The Lord be with you and also with you. And with your spirit. @Ian Coleman – comment #44: TheMc February 9, 2011, 5:20pm #2. All: We lift them up to the Lord. 5:19. Thanks Jeffrey! Heaven and earth are full of your glory. The following prayer may be said. ((John McKenna, The Eucharistic Epiclesis (Second Edition. duc in altum — not with nets but now with pieces of chalk! g Je sus Christ is Lord: g we pro claim your death, Lord Je sus, un til you come in glo ry. Music for Eucharistic Prayers. It is right to give our thanks and praise. All: We lift them up to the Lord. For through Christ you continue to create all these good things, O Lord. Nearly three years into this, and it’s only gotten worse for me. Doing so would be like removing a puzzle piece, staring at the intricacy of the piece removed, and then wondering why the puzzle doesn’t “work”. Calvin Symposium on Worship 2021 – Online and Free! All: It is right and just And I’m hoping that a discussion of the Roman Canon won’t dwindle into a discussion of capital letters. ‘Through their merits and prayers grant us . 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