Most serious gunners had a supply of ammunition and reloading supplies. They are making primers at the same normal rate and not increasing production on purpose. And also the skudel but is the new jurk wont take our guns but will inforce a slow down and in time a halt of production of the supplies needed to use our guns. Im still wondering why not. ]". I believe part of the shortage is artificial. There is a war for the soul of our nation going on like never before. This has happened before and I decided the last time I would buy a little every other month until I felt I had enough. Recently I went to Google and researched Primers for sale. Thats why I prime on a different press. The two major players in the market, Olin (Winchester) and Vista Outdoor (Remington, CCI and Federal) have maxxed out their production with most of the output going to loaded ammunition. Especially the last paragraph. Competition breeds success. Obama is the cause. Yes, its got that bad! I wasnt up to speed on Remingtons negative impact to the market. Its very frustrating. Our President said that He was told We have no ammunition . The number of profiteers seems pretty high. No problem getting brass or bullets, but my press cant run without primers and powder. What I take away form this is the a small group of folks have taken what supplies there are and pushed them into the secondary market, just like what occurred with powder. Some reloaders dont think it matters much but Im not in that camp. Modify Search. Get a set of Federal Playing Cards for $1 with ammo purchase. First of all, thank you for your prompt attention and delivery of my recent order. Assault weapons should have been classed with machine gun status when they first hit the market. There are too many people wanting their way and not Gods way and God is tired of the disrespect and is letting it be known!! Thank you. Unfortunately, many of those reloaders entered the market anticipating that it would be easier to make their own ammo since readily available ammunition was so difficult to find. So we are getting ready to do our part to help out with that issue.. Thanks for the info ,I have a little different take on the ammo and reloading supplies problem we all are facing in these dire time witch includes a new person in charge who has no respect for the constitution our country lives and dies to protect. Keeps pushing their unlawful political policy on the books with absolutely no reason or fallout to them. Next theyll be a shortage on marbles and slingshots!!! So the single large order buys up production for about 90 days. Thanks , Doug McPeek. This benefits pv and customers because it wont be about how many times a day we check..hoping to get lucky. I have plenty of powder as well but for the big cartridges but need powder for the small cartridges. A$20 hazmat fee is not worth it when your competitors have 5k limits. Lets see I need shotgun, small and larger rifle and pistol. Under what reason? This all started when Obama put a limit on the amount of lead a business can either store or order. Gosh??? all this year. 99. Its very real and they have money behind them. COPYRIGHT 2021, THETRUTHABOUTGUNS.COM. The political landscape is more volatile and explosive than ever. Has the up arming of the Military had an effect on the availability of primers ? I think you are spot on. Seems a bit weird to me. Type: Large Pistol Match. Manufacturers are not suppling them in any sizable amounts to distributors and the distributors (when they get them) cannot keep them in stock for more than a few hours. 400 new jobs in Texas and not the anti-gun northeast. Therefore we would never pay that price for primers. Find in-stock ammunition at the best prices.FAST. I will be watching for your news that you have some inventory in, will order primers, powder and a few thousand bullets. Details. Like any other product in a market economy, primers are subject to the whims of supply and demand. Nice article and well-written but I would just add that when primers hit the desired price point, they will suddenly become available again, just like .22 cal did two years ago. Aug 26, 2009 1,161 1,408 We have created some very stringent limitations on the purchase of primers in an effort to help as many people as possible work through this extremely tough time. While lots of calibers of ammunition are slowly returning to many store shelves, primers havent really reappeared in any meaningful numbers since The Time Before. Has Powder Valley received any primers? No disrespect to ammo buyers, but if he big four are diverting the components to ammo manufacturing at the expense of the personal ammo makers, thats wrong. Prior to that date the cost ranged from a low of $20/1,000 to a high of about $35/1,000. I have actually started researching reloading primers. Michael my local club has been getting pull down primers, powder and shot that are suppose to be from Federals disassembled. It was fun while it lasted,RIP shooting sports,thats why Iam done with powder burners,more fun with Canadian vendors have primers in stock. The facility will specialize in the production of primers, a key component in ammunition manufacturing, for the small arms industry. Lots of buildings engineered to handle explosive manufacturing with lightweight blowout walls and roofs, for example. Gun owners never learn. As a first time buyer of several week back I must say I am impressed with your company. They told me Winchester fully dedicating primer production to cartiges for rest of 2021 to meet demand. If theyre diverting all the components to ammo manufacturers, that explains the glut of newly manufactured ammo. Maybe 1 case of each type of primers per order plus whatever powder or other items desired? Sheeple never learn in all arenas of life. This is going to really hurt competition shooting. We still have products were receiving from orders placed in February and March and most of those items are only being received in partial quantities. Rise up put God first! Only a respect for others and a love for a sport that would continue to exist if we were good stewards and logically regulated its growth. Not holding my breath until I see the outcome / output of the company. Remember what some of the democrats were saying before the election. Many champion shooters who would normally be out at the range practicing their skills have been in seclusion in their homes to protect themselves from Covid and have taken up knitting to fill their days. Thanks for being there for us Powder Valley, it very much appreciated.. Primers will come back, and it be just like 22lr or hand sanitizer. I love to reload, Thank you for info. It implies selfish or self-serving behavior. Thank you for this post! Hogden is probably going to have shortages for a while because Mulwex decided to rework their product lines and manufacturing processes. I have a large supply of miscellaneous CCI and Remington primers that are from 20 to 30 years old and have not had a misfire yet. HRC made a statement in 1998 that the 2nd amendment doesnt mention ammo or components. Buckle up, its gonna be a bumpy 2 years till Congress goes Rep. It begins all of the way back at the mines for raw materials. RELATED - Supreme Court Gun Cases 2022: Concealed Carry in the Spotlight I don't see any federal legislation on ammo or components so that should ease some minds . $53.99 Check With Your Local Ammo Store For Availability Bullet Style: Small Pistol; A single large buyer placed an order for 400 Million primers in early September. I have noticed, that especially this week, there have been a lot more primers available vs. the last few months. Advertise bulk semi-tractor trailer loads, hook up, and drive off. For those wondering about the ammo/primer plant by Expansion Industries in Texas.they werent scheduled to start hiring workers for that plant until this year 2023. so its probably going to be a bit before they begin putting ammo and primers into the market from that plant. Thats WHY!!! Elitists from both sides will sit back and watch! As Americans We all support the Second Amendment. 1. 2 No, our employees do not share information and get the primers to all their buddies. Any magazine that mentions the trigger recall will lose their advertising. Thanks for the info. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. The number of profiteers seems pretty high. Many people think that when a company like us places an order with the manufacturer that we receive the order in x number of days. Reactions: KZP. Thank you, Bryan R., for this very informative and comprehensive message. Rifle,Pistol,Shotgun formed a co-op of manufacturing of primers where the employees got paid and goods sold at cost how much we all could shoot??? Normally, we would say stock up. But that time has passed, and I would encourage everyone to learn from this. High capacity magazines and silencers are accessories of war. CCI and the other primer manufacturers have a lot of public explaining to do. Reloading. They have openly stated they are hell bent on stopping the purchase of firearms and all firearm related items through interstate commerce. Details. That was a very comprehensive report on the primer situation. Magtech (1) PMC (1) Servicios and Aventuras (1) CCI (29) Cheddite (1) Federal Premium (16) Fiocchi (1) Murom (1) Remington (12 . There are a lot of rumors going around about the shortages of reloading supplies . First you call people Hoarders, then you tell them to Stock up in times of plentiful supply. But I doubt the gun-broker crowd are gonna let em go for what we pay. That is the biblical thing to do. I read your comprehensive summary about primer shortages. I will conserve those primers. I have been a customer for a number of years . Thanks Bryan. , Recently went on a roadtrip to find primersstopped in a small reloading supply shop,and found shelves stocked with everything from primers to powder to bullets However, primers are are a different story. $100 million invested in the factory, and they hired the neighbors nephew with a harbor freight welder to make the sign on their gate. Ill be glad when this BS is over. According to the New York Times, American gun buyers increased from 5.3% in 2019 to 6.5% in 2020 (17 million buyers). I am sure the Covid-19 problem has taken its toll, but to think that the world has stopped producing ammo makes no sense. Thats great news. Leaving us all with expensive boat anchors. Unless you have less than 100 rounds for your various calibers. As a SASS member I shoot and reload all my match ammo. All testing should stop because the false numbers they produce are driving public hysteria. Hodkinson says the risk of death for people under the age of 65 is one in three-hundred thousand and it is outrageous to shut down society for what is merely just another bad flu. https://www.brighteon.com/3b58b1dc-107d-4341-b9da-3955499d8281 So to top it off we have a primer shortage due to a HOAX. Store For Availability. 12 cents a primer is about what I have seen for online that is in stock as well. 5.0 (38) Hodgdon Copper Fouling Eraser Pistol Powder $ 39 99 39 dollars 99 cents. Rio G-1000 209 Shotshell Primers $ 35. I just go this in my morning Email briefs: Oboma was elected no 22s Biden was elected no reloading supplies seems odd. Or all over the place like Tula and Fiocchi, I really hated both of those. Very helpful to have some insight into whats going on behind the scenes in the primer world. Most of the time I do not put a whole lot of weight on what a politician says but when a politician issues a campaign promise to End the online sale of firearms and ammunitions. Dont try to force it down our throats with a side of propaganda. I for one am not affected by this as I stocked up a The personal ammo makers are a huge part of their sales and will always be there because they are loyal shooters. Expansion Industries, with a hundred million in capital, has secured a location and is advertising for staff to run the production lines it has planned to open later this year. Im praying for us to keep our freedoms and come through this episode unscathed. The items came quicker than expected and in good condition. Something I can add is, this is my 30th year in law enforcement and we have great concerns about ammo as well. hopefully we little reloads will get to see some of them and they wont go just to the ammo manufacturers. Available. Participant. They should lift some regulations and let Americans be Americans. I passed on your in stock primers last week for this reason. thank you for the incite of what is going on in the reloading problem (primers) , this is a year to remember . But it does add time and an extra Step. When I had a black powder revolver I found the harder the hammer hit the primer the more velocity I gained, and thats using the same primer. Great article! I remember the flash and my left thumb having a burning feeling. They may not get bans, or restrictions passed, but I CAN see them finding away to permanently break the current supply chain issue. Jan 21, 2021 #2 . Its a business, plain and simple. I think you better do your research some more, theres lots of us liberals that are die hard gun supporters! They wont flow down the Dillon primer tube. Jul 2, 2021. Gander Outdoors in Kenosha, WI reader-submitted photo on GMToday.com. According to publicly available data, since 2015 Olin has received more than 1,600 federal contracts to supply ammunition and components to federal agencies. Come, Lord Jesus, come! It will be the right man! Really appreciate it. Are you actually getting and selling any at all? VOTING change is what will make a difference! Thank you for the info I would like to see the shooting community be a little less greedy if you have enough let those in need buy some. Did I leave anything out? Now Seeking. Stock and conserve, bolster security, have a plan! When supply does improve, remember folks.stack it high and stack it deep. Now, should you save every one of those 9mm brass casings, the rest of the components - bullets, powder and primers - would still run around $295, which means you'd save only about $65 to do the reloading. What you said is absolute nonsense. Im no longer that desperate. A brick of 1000 Winchester small rifle primers now costs more than $120. 3. If the traitors would quit attacking the Constitution, we would not have this problem. It does matter. If they can get prices sane I will buy a couple cases on principle. The government is increasing the ordering of ammo! These things lack all good common sense. Most important statement of this article is the last words. I know I did, 25k SPP, and no I dont have any left.all traded off or sold long ago. At a production rate of 4 million per day, a shortage shouldnt last long. Labor to run it would be a whole lot cheaper. Full Member. Last fall I heard of the local Cabelas got a pallet of pistol & rifle primers in. In the past, i normally would buy primers 10k at a time in order to spread out the Haz Mat surcharge. Thanks for the explanation of where have all the primers gone ! I have no fear in anyone posing a threat to my gun ownership. Thanks for the informative article. Oct 2, 2011 262 83 50 Billings MT. keep up the good work, stay safe, and if you acquire any BR4 primers i will take all you can sell Although we've spoken to a few manufacturers over the past months . Search Showing. Vince, thanks for the pragmatic approach to our countrys CANCER! A quick look at places like Gunbroker show plenty of primers are available - unfortunately, they are often 2 to 5 times normal MSRP. I mostly shoot rimfire around the house, anyway. Ill now stop floundering around the internet looking for whats not to be found. Unlike primers you use toilet paper every day. Hogden sources some of their range from Mulwex (owned now by Thales) in Australia. I am one of those people, started reloading late 2018. The demand for ammo and reloading supplies continues to skyrocket. Exactly. Although, a few of the main reasons will be condensed into a few (over . My next birthday will make 70 trips around the sun, have decided that those days are coming to an end. However, most people would accuse us of price gouging. Well, technically not banned, but you have to pass a background check, buy a $200 knitting stamp, and wait nine months for approval. What do you read into, Stacking the Supreme Court? 1. I appreciate now knowing more than I did previously. Badger Ordnance near Baraboo, WI has been completely demolished. Really, Im a lily white snowflake liberal. They will do their best to take out the 2nd Amendment and a couple other amendments they dont like i.e. Very informative article and greatly appreciated! Prototype production up front please, as fast as you can. Thanks for the very well written and comprehensive explanation. Not at this time. I have been doing a lot of reloading because I wanted to preserve my primers, so this is great news. Seriously do not live out of the gun shop. With it looking like Biden being president things will Wonder why guys have been hoarding up the primers?? Then they sell ammo at 500% + rate. Unfortunately, the reality is there are numerous reasons why they have become nearly extinct in reloading outlets. Generally I get discounts for purchasing this volume. As it takes about a minute per round to reload, you're looking at spending at least 16 hours to produce . I believe the use of the word stockpile is to be prepared for short or long term shortages. Elections have consequences. Thank you for the write-up as it was informative. Knitting needles over 2-3/4 inches long require a special permit in Washington state so I cant even take up knitting. Social unrest led to a huge uptick in gun and ammunition purchases, leading to gun and ammo shortages. Its hoarders more than any single factor. Its all those youngsters buying those ar14s and thinking that need a glock- this aint the Boogaloo- your preventing families from hunting. Direct access to the copper mines for brass, etc, I thought Texas was Mexico? Toilet paper was also in high demand but modern manufacturing made it more availability. You would too. Because when the centerfire ammo is outrageously priced and or unavailable to practice with everyone runs for the .22! There are definitely some profiteers who buy primers and then sell them on auction sites or other multi list sites. Thanks for the information. CCI and Federal were both on the shelf and a limit of 1 each. Keep up the good work. 99. So I do hope they flow as smooth as CCI, Win or Federal Primers. I dont care if they work in a Dillon tube or not just so they work in the cartridges. Because its not only consumers buying primers and then turning them into profit on gunbroker and the likes, its also retailers and retailer employees doing the same thing.. Keep the guns, they may be good as clubs in a self-defense situation. And one of those slips one in sideways occasionally -3-5 per 100 in the hand primer. 1000 at a time isnt worth the shipping and hazmat. CCI is just down the road from me. At least with the hand primer I can watch a TV show and prime. Expansion primers will also be sold directly to the public. Expansion Industries is planning to hire hundreds of people at their new facility, just east of Hooks. Limiting purchases to 1,000 is ok if I can have the order held and combined with other orders to minimize hazmat, though I understand why PV has no interest in allowing a layaway approach. Probably best answer to the situation, thanks. In this critical time Im afraid we are going to need them more than ever Respfully. Definately worth getting 5k to make the HazMat and shipping palletable. He boasted he would sell them at Gun Shows for100$-150$ a box.. and more. 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