They are the future Pirate King and World’s Strongest Swordsman, so it’s understandable for them to be front of two powerhouses. Oda could have made Zoro struggling and having extreme diff fights against any of his opponents or even loosing but no, Zoro didn’t face any loss this entire time because someone who trained everyday during two years with a top tier won’t be take out easily. No featured entries match the criteria. "Hold it, you two. Despite getting pinned by Fuji's fruit Zoro manages to send out a flying slash with just 1 sword enough to push Fuji back Zoro strikes back. Who gave you permission to pass this hill?" Gears 2 & 3. In Act I: → Zoro meets back with Luffy. Why is Zoro lost ? What I DON'T agree with, is the suggestion that Asura would be able to match King Kong Gun. But Luffy is able to use all three types of haki which gives him an edge on zoro. Furthermore as clearly seen in this next panel zoro went to sleep essentially after a long night of drinking XD Defeat? Basically the yeti cool brothers were such a non threat that Zoro and Sanji didnt even perceive there was an attack now that's a meme. 7 HATED: Didn't Cut Tashigi That was the first time to see a character besides the high/top tier to counter an Admiral, the strongest forces of Navy and also the moment Oda showed that Zoro is not a pushover for a top tier. Even when they eventually get stronger than Jinbei, they will continue to be comparable to each other because Luffy has and always will be the strongest. So that means Zoro was already around Yonko Commander 1 lvl since the post time-skip. Still, given that the anime did the "x" … Psychologically destroyed her while still keeping his unsaid oath to not hurt women. Moreover, he says that in the future they can’t trust a guy who leaves the crew on a whim, such as Usopp. Zoro’s slash didn’t cut the tonfa because it was meant for Apoo’s body. G4 also heavily buffs his speed and durability as well, meanwhile Zoro gets stuck with just another attack like every other, but stronger. Zoro manages to bend his body and swing the swords in the form of an inverted "S" shape while performing a vertical spin, slashing the opponent six times simultaneously so fast that he did not seem to move at all. Zoro had a harder time against Mr.1 than Sanji had with Mr.2, Kaku and Jabra were basically equals. Whereas you have users like u/cameformystrawhat saying shit like Zoro has some unique haki and he has advanced armament haki because of Enma and the rest of us are stupid for not seeing it. Luffy stretched his arm, going to punch Kuro, who dodged to the side, barely missing the hit. People have been trying to slander Zoro after chapter 1001. Oh just quickly cause people love to meme this. imo, pirate king obviously. Lucci was stronger than Kaku and Jyabura combined. Dec 7, 2020 #54 DiscoZoro20 said: No. The problem with Monet is we all know she wasnt even the strongest antagonist there that honor goes to Vergo unfortunately Monet falls victim to Zoro being too strong. So think of those same fights that Zoro and Luffy shared opponents with, but instead, imagine Gear 4 Luffy. Hurry!" They can both train and maximize them even further too, which is great. In both cases they overcame armaments and observation haki respectively. Prem is right this is a stupid theory, his evidence used for Zoro’s reason to leaving the Straw Hat crew is not Zoro’s character. Luffy right now is definitely stronger than Zoro... but its not because of gear 4th. And he could not drop Luffy either. Messages: 1,351 Likes Received: 3,451 Trophy Points: 13,260 Bounty Points: 250 . Zoro‘s speech is brought to a climax when he tells Luffy that if he goes on to humiliate himself and still pretend to be his leader, then Zoro will be the one to leave the crew. The problem with this is Zoro and Sanji pretty much never interact with the same opponent. The real reason Luffy is stronger than Zoro is his experiences on whole cake Island. [OP QUIZ] Can you put these characters in the correct camp, Marine or Pirate? ZenZu, Jul 22, 2015 #81. namiitoitonomi. His ass lubed and stretched with expert skill. The gap only widened after Alabasta even, once we started adding the Gears to the mix. Luffys clash lasts a little longer Luffy attacks Fuji He declares if must be pirate King he must defeat all of the admirals and the yonko. Luffy began laughing hysterically, while Zoro… It doesn’t make sense unless Oda made that on purpose because he didn’t want a Zoro vs Doflamingo. The two twins were completely unfazed by the attack as they stood silently. A rivalry like theirs can only exist if both rivals are extremely close to each other. During the Enies Lobby Arc, Robin Lucci pointed out that Luffy Gear 2, is shortening his life by using it … Oda choose him and not even Luffy, he fought Hawkins and if the tiger didn’t came, he would have probably win because he cut one of the strongest card of Hawkins without taking any serious damages after that. With gear 4th Luffy goes from being too weak to do damage and too slow to keep up with Doffy to basically dominating him across the board. People really need to rewatch/reread Alabasta. Where did Luffy get his X scar? Cardboard Jewsuke Draffut. Fuji was more prepared for Luffy and didn't expect much from Zoro. look at it this way, whose goal requires more strength? Zoro is also portrayed to be the one that stands together with Luffy. Why are there so many of these posts again recently? LolonoisZolo. Strength does matter we know Haki isnt the final decision in a fight because we have seen the strawhats overcome it with just raw strength before. Even though it was a cheap shot, he cut through Apoo's haki covered weapon, so he obviously could've done it without the cheapshot. In the northern cemetery: ... Zoro says, Finally I can cut the fire as I wished Robin take what you want and go out from here. Luffy's always been above his crew and that's a fact. Is this a sign that Zoro is stronger that Luffy? Because Oda wanted Zoro to have at least one sword from Oden and decided to make that, special. First Luffy attacks Hyouzou with a jet pistol the same attack that one shot a pacifista .Luffy attacks Hyouzou We even cut back to him showing that not only did he withstand luffy he had retaliated in that same moment luffy calls Hyouzou strong . Zoro had to break his limits vs Mr. 1. Zoro was the first one to ever defeat another member of Worst Generation. I hate the Luffy vs Zoro posts.. Let's just stick to bullying Sanji. Ulike Luffy was gets injured. During this arc, Luffy and a hypnotized Zoro end up fighting, which how he ends up getting an "x" scar across his chest — from a wound inflicted by Zoro. He could feel his face going pale by the second; did his sword just cut Luffy's…? There has never been a proper pirate crew that has a captain and subordinate as equals. I can understand suggesting Asura has enough power to match the gulf between Gears 2&3 and Gear 4. Luffy has only struggled in absolutely putting down Commanders thanks to G4's time limit, but Zoro has had relatively even skirmishes with other Supernova, so i'd be surprised if he can suddenly overwhelm a YC the way Gear 4 does. Post time skip the interactions between Zoro had Sanji have been few and far between while Zoro and Luffy continue to be partners in combat. Zoro‘s speech is brought to a climax when he tells Luffy that if he goes on to humiliate himself and still pretend to be his leader, then Zoro will be the one to leave the crew. Now Zoro is facing Kaido and Big Mom two people from the elite again with his captain Luffy. The chiefest among them being that Oda hadn't thought of it being used for combat at that time. I will say the reason i started with post time skip is its the first time weve gotten zoro is completely healthy with all 3 swords consistently. Even in their delusion. Zoro. Futhurmore at the end of enies Lobby both Kaku and Lucci were completely koed leaving jabura and the other cp9 yo take care of them yet other similarity between Zoro and Luffy rather than Sanji. Like bruh , just admit you were wrong. The first defense i always here yo this Sanji was also willing to die for Luffy however while true it ignores the everything that happened to get to that point. You seeing coming into the time skip we saw that Sanji and Luffy have both incorporated their enies lobby power ups into their base abilities. Theory spoiler. Why? I'm always told he gets it while trying to save ace, but I thought he got it from Zoro when he gets taken over. Now i do believe Sanji was alot closer to zoro during the pre time skip but there are 2 events that set them apart clearly. Why? Cracker with his DF Bisu Bisu no Mi and Katakuri with his DF Mochi Mochi no Mi and especially his Future Sight. Sanji had finished off with his legs and did one final kick to his ribcage breaking it. Oda could have ended this fight as he did with King vs Sanji but no, he made Zoro to counter Fujitora’s gravity while Zoro was suffering by the gravity and pushed Fujitora few meters back. But I hope I at least got my point across. But overall, we're not that far apart, but to me the sticking point is that they were never really close enough to call equals. Zoro and Sanji ARE portrayed as equals. The first mate of Mugiwara no Luffy is a person who at first didn’t even want to join the crew. "Zoro had a harder time against Me. So where does this scar come into effect? That’s why there wont be any conflicts between Zoro and Luffy, instead Zoro will respect Luffy more because Luffy endured the pain without his nakama comforting him. He was screaming from all the pain his arms were ripped off by Luffy and Zoro had cut off all his skin on the front showing off all his organs you could see his heart beating. However it does allow him to train his Haki much like it is highlighted Luffy is doing. I shouldnt need to elaborate further. So that means, Zoro’s feat is comparable to top tier feats. At Dressrosa, when Law, Sanji and Luffy fought Doffy, only one didn’t face Doflamingo: Zoro. His blindness is his ironically his comedic aspect but when it comes to combat hes still an admiral. But the fact remains that Luffy has always been above his crew and that's never changing. 10 months ago silentNightz But I am here to put an end to it. 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