Written 2016........... © Copyright 2016 by Walt Geryk & SpeyDoctor.com. Purchases of these multi branded lines, tips and shooting lines continue to be extremely popular for that mid-spey length. Hardy Worldwide Extended Warranty - Hardy’s warranty covers repair or replacement of damaged, broken, or defective sections of the fly rod for the lifetime of the product. Now, this sounds great, but there is a definite notice in added line stretch with the Powerflex Max. This particular model is a great all around and versatile spey rod for the Great Lakes Rivers and for Atlantic salmon where the longer floating speys are desirable. "This Hybrid Mid-Spey Line Configuration, that offers a wide rage of versatility, continues to possibly be the most popular line configuration available today." You may ask how this is possible; once you match your rod with this line kit, the head and matching tips always equal the same total grain weight. Intermediate/Sink 3/Sink 5: When you really have to get down to the fish, this is the fastest sinking, deepest-fishing head we make. All you need to do is pull in the head and adjust the cast. The cork quality is excellent although the rear handle grip is a little short. ___________________________________________________________________________________. This means that a 5-weight switch rod, for example, takes a much higher grain weight line than a 5-weight single hander in order to get the proper load. Our favorite Skagit Line is: Sign up for our Newsletter, a monthly dose of new ideas and exclusive deals on great gear, sent directly to your inbox. All Rights Reserved. Written 2016........... © Copyright 2016 by Walt Geryk & SpeyDoctor.com. These shorter 23’ foot heads matched with the 10’ and 15’ tips will make nearly every switch and spey rod into a more versatile casting and fishing tool. I find this line to be the answer for adapting to the challenges of smaller streams and larger rivers with the need for innovative roll and spey casting with the ability to shoot out a long overhead cast. All Rights Reserved. Fishing Schools, Lessons and Instructions offered throughout the North East. For some anglers, switch rods have become the "go-to" rod in two-handed spey casting applications. By adding an assortment of Versileaders you’ll be able to get down into the strike zones. Testing in high and low pressures, deeply submersed in salt water for months at a time, frozen, heated, boiled are just some of the conditions that cannot affect the performances of these #1 Salt Water Reels. With performances like many 8 wts. Pick up a Fenwick® World Class series rod and join us in the future of fishing. That's why I can say, without hesitation; this will be the best switch rod investment you can make!” Offered Under $600.00 $489.95 By Walt Geryk 2017. In some instances, pending individual preferences, tip lengths to rod lengths can vary. A great choice for trout up to 22 inches. These rods represent the next generation of high performance rod building with powerful, lightweight blanks that are also extremely durable. Whether you’re targeting trout on western rivers or large Salmon in Alaska, the Demon Switch provides fast action performance and a strong rod blank design. DEMON Sintrix®330 Hardy fly rod, made of SINTRIX 330 material, to optimize the resistance/weight ratio, thus obtaining a perfect balance. Four Piece Rods: First, let me say that shooting lines are very important to getting optimum distances with easy casting, which results in better performances that all anglers are searching for. 8’ and the line will still perform superbly. Of course, there is also a degree of casting accomplishment that must be achieved prior to getting maximum performances from any rod and line combination. © Copyright 2017 by Walt Geryk. Free shipping. Fuji Stripping Guides - The stripping guides on the Demon provide saltwater protection and low friction performance. The ZEPHRUS 7/8 Spey is my new go to rod for mostly all my Atlantic Salmon and Steelhead Fishing.” A full range of rods covering every use from small stream through technical nymph fishing, Salt, Switch and Two handed salmon use. I recommend the RIO InTouch 3d Scandi with RIO’s Replacement Tips or Versi Leaders. Searching for the latest shooting line, RIO has one, but is it better for all situations? Fenwick World Class Spey Rods are available from 5/6 to 8/9. 4pc. Msrp. The Demon range brings Hardy performance, durability and build quality to anglers at a surprisingly low price. After touting the Zenith for 4 plus years, the design team at HARDY made some taper and cosmetic changes resulting with the newly branded ZEPHRUS. Once the fly has tracked into the final spot, be sure to let it hang there with a tight line, remaining in touch with the fly, and give it a few soft twitches during a slow retrieve. ; example a 6 wt. Comparing with other manufactures within this price range, you too will see for yourself that these New Fenwick World Class Spey Rods outperform the competition while utilizing a wider variety of lines and heads. by Walt Geryk, 2016. Sold Out Sale View. Glasgow Angling Centre Unit 1 The Point Retail Park, 29 Saracen Street, Glasgow, G22 5HT Tel: 0141 212 8880 // Email: sales@fishingmegastore.com Offered in 4 sizes, one is sure to fit your needs. Hardy Demon is manufactured in Sintrix 330 for increased strength to weight ratio and improved in hand balance. I tested and fished this model with the “RIO New Long Belly Spey” and find it easy to cast the full long belly line smoothly and powerfully, resulting with tight performance loops. These flies may be more effective in boiling deep pockets and are definitely easier to use and in many cases will be more productive in these areas. by Walt Geryk, 2016. The 13’6”s were fished with the RIO New Long Belly Spey Lines. Hardy Demon is manufactured in Sintrix 330 for increased strength to weight ratio and improved in hand balance. HARDY Fortuna is my clear choice for Salt Water, but for a more budgeted purchase it would be the Hardy SDS! ___________________________________________________________________________, “What I have achieved by combining scandi tapers with well-matched balanced tips are effortless cast and superior performances,that are second to none for in close to long distance, mid-spey style of casting and fishing.”. Also, take a take a look at the New Hardy SDS which has a comparable drag system to the Hatch, at a price of around $300.00 less than the Hatch. In higher flows, it's critical on how the traditional style spey fly tracks tightly down the edges of the seams then with a slow swing across into a resting spot, pocket or another run. A favorite on streams and rivers up to 70 feet across. Msrp. By using the Replacement / Versi Tips, a hybrid short spey line is now ready for casting. 25% off - Hardy Ultralite MA Spool. Six Piece Rods: Compare if you dare, but it’ll be difficult to find anyone in the industry that’s tougher on testing products, in various fishing conditions, as I. 4pc. Hardy Demons are manufactured with Sintrix 330 for increased strength to weight ratio and improved in hand balance. Hardy Demon Sintrix Smuggler Single Hand Fly Rod Series. I suggest 10' tips on spey rods shorter than 13’ rods and 15’ tips on rods 13’ and longer or as to your personal liking and casting skills. Related sponsored items Hardy 5in Lockable Forceps. The RIO Powerflex Max is a good choice for the trouter looking for added distances. ENDURA Fly and Spey Line Dressing is what we find to outperform and out last the competition by a long cast. A full range of rods covering every use from small stream through technical nymph fishing, Salt, Switch and Two handed salmon use. Each tip is also density compensated which allows for the tip first sinking while offering a better and more precise presentation. 4pc. Ultra-low stretch ConnectCore Technology for the maximum in sensitivity, control and performance. These rods will perform superbly within the species weight ranges listed and will obviously handle the occasional smaller or larger fish. RIO Products PDF Page Viewing. HARDY Zephrus13'6" 8/9 and 9/10 weight spey rods, RIO Replacement Tips 8 & 9weights in both10' and 15' Lengths, Triple density head design for maximum fishing control, Ultra-low stretch ConnectCore for maximum performance, Effortless casting design for distance and presentation, RIO’s Easy ID to easily identify head size and density, HARDY DEMON Spey 8/9wt 12’9” HARDY Zephrus Spey 8/9wt 13’6’, Long head length for the very best in line control and fishability, Sophisticated taper design for easy effortless distance, For peak performances & longer life, dress lines with Endura Line Dressing. ______________________________________________________________________, New 2017 "World Class Spey Rods" Ranging from freezing temps and 33 degree water to the hot summer days on the Salmon River to the Miramichi, the Deerfield River Region and into the Salt Waters of Cape Cod, this dressing was tested by dozens of anglers. $479.95 Line Care From £386.99. 3/4 wt 10’6”: A fun option when pursuing fish in smaller rivers and streams. The new HARDY DEMON Spey Series is exactly what a scandi caster could ask for! Oh, they also have many of the most Classic and Modern Reels to fit even the modest of budgets. Stunning clean cosmetics include a metallic olive blank, custom reel seat and high quality hardware. Mostly all other flies can use 8#-15# accordingly, depending on water conditions. Cover the Water Effectively The weight of the Demon is slightly lighter than the Hardy Jet series, however, falls sort of middle-of-the-pack when compared to other fly rods in the same price category. This fly is intricately tied with a variety of techniques that are easy to learn and fun to use in a variety of other streamer patterns. I noticed the 2D to be less forgiving in staying in touch with the fly and during the swings the 2 D had a tendency to want to hang up much more. Tested on steelhead, I had a higher rate of solid hook ups, 8 out of 10. Fishing Schools, Lessons and Instructions offered throughout the North East. After a few years of lobbying and discussions with four manufacturers, I apparently may have caught the attention of Simon and Zack at RIO and recently the introduced the New InTouch Short Head Spey Lines. $479.95 RRP: £349.99 £225.00. PDF Page Viewing HARDY FORTUNA: A truly sweet switch rod that performs extremely well in moderate currents and allows the fish to put smooth and delicate bends in the rod while enjoying the bucking battle from your quarry. Change from dry fly and nymphing presentations, to swinging wets and streamers in a minute! Hardy Demon Sintrix Double Handed Fly Rods. Designed to be used with grain matched tips. Find yourself struggling on a windy day with the full 64 to70 foot head out? I find these lines to be aerially dynamically balanced when it comes to turn over and line flight with tight loops and can used on most all spey rods and brands. The 14’ thicker handling section helps you hold tight during your casts and is available in 4 sizes to fit your 4 wt trout lines and heavier Appreciate easier casting when the head may be needed inside the rod for even shorter in-close casts. 10/11wt 14’9”: For big water requiring extra-long casts. This is the first line, that I have found, with the ability to shoot line while single hand spey casting effortlessly. Stengene er selvfølgelig nydelige å se … _______________________________________________________________________________________. Walt Geryk Just add any of the properly matched intermediate to type 8 RIO Replacement Sink Tips and get deeper quicker. © Copyright 2018 by Walt Geryk. With these prices, you won’t break the bank in becoming a World Class Caster. These flies are very productive when presented properly at the slowest speed presented to allow for fly undulation. Hardy’s well-rounded Demon Series includes a Switch Series of rods. With a possible slight modification to your forward cast, you will find the considerably smaller “D” loop allows you to cast while being up against a wall. A selection of heads, tips and leaders were used on the HARDY ZEPHRUS 8/9 and the NEW DEMON 8/9 SPEY RODS to determine these recommendations. Keeping your your fly & spey lines clean and well-dressed will add performance and longevity to its life. The more preferred are the one piece lines which incorporates the integral running line. We highly recommend using a Spey specific line. When fishing for larger fish (5 plus pounds) at this distance and further, I find there are many more misses, even when there’s the feel of a strong pull. 55% Off! A full range of rods covering every use from small stream through technical nymph fishing, Salt, Switch and Two handed salmon use. Hardy Demon is manufactured in Sintrix 330 for increased strength to weight ratio and improved in hand balance. I had the opportunity to compare a Hover / Intermediate 2 D line, which is currently only available in the U.K., to the Float / Hover / Intermediate RIO InTouch Scandi 3D Head. For Great Lakes Steelhead the 7/8 is my fish on rod for comfort, performance and versatility. With its powerful lower rod section, the New DEMON Spey effortlessly casts RIO’s 3D Scandi lines which are becoming very popular for sub-surface tight line swinging. The New 2017 FENWICK World Class Spey Rods are ready to swing into action with performances and durability Second to None in its price range. Thoroughly Tested: I find these RIO Scandi Shorts to perform on a wide array of manufacturer’s rods admirably and to be just what the Spey Doctor needed to continue to offer the best options and products for my guests and students. With these two properties, easier casting and 10% and 15% added distances are achieved without any loss of accuracy. Find yourself continuously firing out longer and smoother casts with accurate and delicate presentations with the floating and sinking tips. Important Grain Weight Note: When combining these heads and tips, you need to consider the total grain weight of both line and tip to properly match your rod. Fly Styles The Zephrus range of two handed rods are the perfect combination of strength, power, and finesse covering all two handed rod applications from small free stone streams to mighty spate rivers. by Walt Geryk 2016 £24.99. ________________________________________________________________________, Dress and Maintain your Fly and Spey Lines for trout, salmon, steelhead and more. 13’6” 8/9 wt. I find these lines can make most any introductory to intermediate price range rod perform smoothly and effortlessly especially for the beginner, but not limited to, as all levels of casters may enjoy the performance of this line. When shorter heads and lines are needed, you’ll find that this rod will handle them all. There's one that will fit your needs. This equates to consistent performance without changing the rod load and without a need to change your comfortable forward casting stroke. Powerful, interchangeable tip fly lines for nearly all conditions. "Always searching for better solutions and products, I was asked to test this new proprietary formula. "Invest in the rod that you will never grow out of, HARDY.”, _____________________________________________________________________________________, How to bring the river depths to new heights, What’s all the craze about 2D and 3 D lines, well here’s a little insight as to how they will increase your hook ups by getting fly into the zone and keeping it there in nearly all water currents. by Walt Geryk 2016. 13’6” 7/8 wt. "Invest in a rod that you will never grow out of, HARDY.”. Just pull in 4’ to 8’ and the line will still perform superbly. Hardy Demon Switch Rods are redesigned utilising SINTRIX® 330 for modern speycasting, working particularly well with short headed spey lines and shooting heads. The Hover back section allows for easy casting and line control, while the intermediate mid-section and Sink 3 tip hold the fly at fish level. £494.99. #1 Over 30lbs of silky smooth stopping power Hardy Demon Sintrix Switch Rod. Just when you may have thought that the HARDY Zenith was the top of development for spey and single handed fly rods, well think again. $0 Shipping. That’s Right for You, Properly matched shooting lines to your heads is just part of the equation needed for longer accurate casts, No more annoying connections clicking. Free shipping. Seller 99.9% positive . Results: lasts longer, applies on wet and dry lines, floats lines higher, slides through the guides with unnoticeable friction, increases casting distances and can be used on any fly or spey line. RIO Products Msrp. Well suited for casting in tight quarters where anchors are out in front and the need to create small and powerful “D” Loops is necessary. When Dressing and Cleaning your spey lines, always treat the running and shooting lines along with the heads and floating tips. Written 2016........... © Copyright 2016 by Walt Geryk & SpeyDoctor.com. for trout, salmon, steelhead and more. The Single Handed Spey performs great, even on the shortest of fly rods and really bombs out long casts with pie plate accuracy. And with the strong lower third of the blank, you’ll be able to turn these great fighters out of the current and into the net. After testing and fishing these New 6 Piece models, I find each performs slightly heavier than each designated lower number but comfortably cast the lighter numbered lines. Of course, there is also a degree of casting accomplishment that must be achieved prior to getting maximum performances from any rod and line combination. $729.95 to $829.95, For Line Advice on these rods and others and for your style of fly fishing. Outside the species weight, these rods are extremely durable and will handle the occasional heavier fish. More Product Reviews Be Ready for a Solid Pull! Find yourself continuously firing out smooth and accurate presentations , in close and at longer distances, It’s RIO’s Scandi Body, used with matching RIO Replacement Tips and Scandi Versi Tip Short kits. In fact, SINTRIX 330 contributes to a rod blank with a 30% increase in comprehensive rod strength over traditional carbon fiber fly rods. Developed by Hardy, it incorporates silica nano spheres into their carbon fishing rods, making the Hardy Sintrix series some of the strongest and most durable rods on the market. Let’s compare the latest Powerflex Max Shooting Line to the very popular ConnectCore Shooting Line. ", ENDURA Fly and Spey Line Dressing...... Retail and Wholesale Information. A full range of rods covering every use from small stream through technical nymph fishing and the largest of windswept reservoirs. By Walt Geryk 2018. 4pc. ____________________________________________________________________________________, The HARDY Zephrus Spey Rods Designed for Longer Two-Handed Rods & Big Rivers. This new HARDY Series is Demonizing everything else in its class! Hardy Demon is manufactured in Sintrix 330 for increased strength to weight ratio and improved in hand balance. "The 7/8 wt. The 13’6” 8/9 performs like an 8 and will easily handle the longer belly spey lines available today. Power and Accuracy! All Rights Reserved. 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